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Conservation Finance Alliance & Conservation Strategy Fund
Join David Meyers and Kim Bonine as they speak with some of the world’s most innovative thinkers about how to transform economic incentive systems to work for the natural world and the people in it. The incentive systems that drive our behavior – from those that we've created through laws, commerce, and culture to those that evolved over our history on the planet – have led us to take Nature for granted. 4Nature guests are committed to restructuring financial, economic, and social incentives to be more nature positive, and transforming the role humanity plays within Nature.
The New Business Model Saving Coral Reefs with Nicolas Pascal
Send us Fan Mail Discover how Blue Alliance transforms marine protected areas by blending coral conservation with social enterprise to build a thriving blue economy. Episode Resources: Official Website for Blue AllianceBlue Alliance Case Study on Marine Protected AreasTurneffe Atoll Marine Reserve Official Site What if the secret to saving the world's dying coral reefs isn't just better science, but better business? In this episode of the 4Nature Podcast, marine ecologist and former invest...
Apr 7
44 min
Unlocking Capital for a Regenerative Blue Economy with Melissa Walsh
Send us a text Season 3, Episode 4: Unlocking Capital for a Regenerative Blue Economy with Melissa Walsh How do we fix a broken system — and unlock the investment needed to save our oceans? Despite the urgency of the climate crisis, ocean conservation remains dramatically underfunded. In this episode, we explore how to change that by building a true capital market for the ocean. Our guest, Dr. Melissa Walsh — a global leader in blue finance and Director of Blue Finance & Scaling at ...
Dec 3, 2025
40 min
WCC Special Episode: Transformational Leadership, Building Systems That Empower People and Protect Nature.
Send us a text How do we move beyond small, isolated conservation projects to protect nature at scale? This special episode of 4Nature, made for the IUCN World Conservation Congress 2025, explores what transformational leadership looks like in practice. Host David Meyers speaks with two trailblazing leaders—Kathleen Fitzgerald, Project Director for Enduring Earth, and Vatosoa Rakotondrazafy, Regional Ocean Governance Manager for IUCN—who are reimagining how conservation can empower communitie...
Oct 16, 2025
39 min
Season 3 Episode 3: From Free to Priceless: The True Cost of Nature
Send us a text Every breath you take is free - but in an economic system that only values what's priced, could this be nature's greatest vulnerability? In this rare podcast-meets-podcast exchange, David Meyers and Juan Pablo Romero (host of Poder Ambiental) flip between interviewer and interviewee to dissect this dangerous paradox. Their conversation transcends typical environmental gloom, revealing how innovative financial mechanisms are already transforming our relationship with nature - fr...
Jun 5, 2025
56 min
Season 3 Episode 2: The Gold Standard: Valuing Intact Nature While We Fix What's Broken
Send us a text What if we've built conservation markets backward? Mike Korchinsky, founder of Wildlife Works, reveals how we've created elaborate systems to pay for reducing destruction while assigning zero value to what remains intact. After pioneering REDD+ carbon credits that moved millions to indigenous communities, Korchinsky is now challenging both corporate leaders and environmental activists with a provocative framework: "The market is the worst form of conservation finance - except f...
May 6, 2025
44 min
Season 3 Episode 1: Rewilding Our Money: How Bioregions Are Growing Regenerative Economies from the Ground Up
Send us a text What if money flowed through landscapes like water - nurturing life and creating abundance - instead of extracting value and leaving depletion behind? Samantha Power, regenerative economist and co-founder of the BioFi Project, reveals how "bioregional financing facilities" keep capital rooted in places like nutrients in healthy soil. From community-governed trusts to venture studios supporting Indigenous entrepreneurs, her four innovative models challenge the assumption that fi...
Apr 22, 2025
44 min
S2 Episode 6: BIOFUND - Revolutionizing Conservation Finance in Mozambique
Today we dive into the remarkable story of Mozambique's BIOFUND, a trailblazing conservation trust fund that has revolutionized biodiversity protection in the country. Join our conversation with BIOFUND's visionary leaders, Dr. Narciso Matos and Sean Nazerali, as they share insights on the fund's innovative approach to engaging local communities, fostering public-private partnerships, and achieving impressive financial growth.Discussed in this Episode:BIOFUND's unique membership model for eng...
Aug 21, 2024
42 min
S2 Episode 5: Quantifying Nature - The Quest for Standardized Biodiversity Credits
Sinclair Vincent currently serves as the Senior Director of Sustainable Development, Program Development, and Innovation at Verra, a leading organization driving global investment in biodiversity conservation and sustainable development. In her role, Sinclair oversees the strategy, direction, and evolution of Verra's suite of programs, including the Sustainable Development Verified Impact Standard, the Climate, Community & Biodiversity Standards, and the Plastic Waste Reduction Standard. ...
Jul 3, 2024
33 min
S2 Episode 4: Bringing Biodiversity to Silicon Valley with Superorganism
In this episode, we explore the cutting-edge of conservation finance with Kevin Webb and Tom Quigley, co-founders of Superorganism - a trailblazing venture capital firm on a mission to catalyze the nature tech revolution. We dive into their unique approach to funding startups that are harnessing the power of technology to tackle the biodiversity crisis head-on. From harnessing mycorrhizal fungi networks to boost timber growth to turning invasive species into sustainable leather, the innovatio...
Apr 15, 2024
39 min
S2 Episode 3: Nature's New Equity: Douglas Eger on Revolutionizing Conservation with Finance
Today we explore the groundbreaking intersection of finance and conservation with Douglas Eger, Chairman and CEO of the Intrinsic Exchange Group. Learn how the innovative concept of Natural Asset Companies (NACs) proposes a new way to value nature, transforming it into a recognized economic asset that benefits both the environment and communities. Through Eger's journey from conserving acres to conceptualizing financial mechanisms for nature, we examine how integrating nature’s value into cap...
Mar 11, 2024
36 min
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