Send us a text How do we move beyond small, isolated conservation projects to protect nature at scale? This special episode of 4Nature, made for the IUCN World Conservation Congress 2025, explores what transformational leadership looks like in practice. Host David Meyers speaks with two trailblazing leaders—Kathleen Fitzgerald, Project Director for Enduring Earth, and Vatosoa Rakotondrazafy, Regional Ocean Governance Manager for IUCN—who are reimagining how conservation can empower communitie...

Unlocking Capital for a Regenerative Blue Economy with Melissa Walsh

Join David Meyers and Kim Bonine as they speak with some of the world’s most innovative thinkers about how to transform economic incentive systems to work for the natural world and the people in it. The incentive systems that drive our behavior – from those that we've created through laws, commerce, and culture to those that evolved over our history on the planet – have led us to take Nature for granted. 4Nature guests are committed to restructuring financial, economic, and social incentives to be more nature positive, and transforming the role humanity plays within Nature.