Kyle and I hang out at the Manual Cinemas studio and talk about leaping into a full-time career running and being creative with Manual Cinema. We also range through many other topics and conclude with a wonderfully intimate discussion of how the road is hard on relationships. I love Kyle and am happy to share our conversation. I also play some music by Filligar at the end (and the beginning)just for fun.www.kylevegter.comwww.manualcinema.comwww.dougperkins.com