David and Kim talk to David Johnson, Senior Lecturer in the Economics Department at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, about the management of public goods in the global economy and how we find a balance between individual needs and group success when it comes to nature and the climate crisis. &quot;A reason to be hopeful: we came together to stop a global pandemic..what&apos;s stopping us from having the same global response to climate change? ... it may be a moment to be seized.&quot; - David Johnson

Episode 4: Kaddu Sebunya: Africa's Leadership in Conservation

Join David Meyers and Kim Bonine as they speak with some of the world’s most innovative thinkers about how to transform economic incentive systems to work for the natural world and the people in it. The incentive systems that drive our behavior – from those that we've created through laws, commerce, and culture to those that evolved over our history on the planet – have led us to take Nature for granted. 4Nature guests are committed to restructuring financial, economic, and social incentives to be more nature positive, and transforming the role humanity plays within Nature.