In this episode, Penelope and Katie are laughing about some of the not-so-glamorous realities of being in lock-down and talking about how this situation is forcing us to re-think our lives, our priorities and our goals. Across the course of their conversation, they discuss the new-normal, the potential for long-term lock-down, the so-called ‘gifts’ in this situation and whether or not Penelope should get a dog.