1984 Today!
1984 Today!
Mike Freedman
An exploration of dystopian trends in society, featuring a range of guests, hosted by Mike Freedman. 1984today.substack.com
Episode 106: Jonathan M. Katz on Substack's 'Nazi Problem', Free Speech, and Modern Journalism
Substack has been in the news recently, due to accusations of and/or objections to extreme/racist/Nazi writers who have newsletters on the platform, and the refusal of Substack’s management to remove or throttle the content in question to the satisfaction of critics.If we tried to pinpoint when exactly the presence of that content became a foreground issue, it would most likely be the publication in The Atlantic of a piece called Substack Has A Nazi Problem by Jonathan M. Katz. The article has drawn a lot of heat (and support), with notable responses from ,, , and , among others.In Episode 104 I spoke with Elle Griffin about her work, which included an open letter in support of Substack’s ‘walled garden’ approach to content moderation. Jonathan listened to the podcast and tagged me in a post to his subscribers about it, so I invited him on to give his perspective.Jonathan is an author and journalist who started out reporting for Associated Press on the Pentagon, the Middle East, the Dominican Republic, and the Haitian earthquake of 2010. He’s a contributor to The Atlantic, The New York Times, The New Republic, and The New Yorker, and is the winner of the Medill Medal for Courage in Journalism and a National Headliners Award.You can find and subscribe to his writing at The Racket, and his most recent book is Gangsters of Capitalism, about the life of General Smedley Butler of “War is a racket” fame.In our conversation, Jonathan and I get into the genesis of his Atlantic piece, the resulting response and backlash, his experience and development as a journalist over the past two decades, and the issues around free speech that underpin the current debate.Enjoy! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit 1984today.substack.com
Feb 4, 2024
2 hr 10 min
Episode 105: Tim Boucher on the Fever Dream of the AI Mind
Can AI imagine itself?Is an organic life possible in a machine world?Do you want a computer chip in your brain?Tim Boucher is the author of the AI Lore books, over 100 illustrated volumes of conspiracy-tinged dystopian fiction set in a future where AI has taken control of the planet. Before that he was a content moderator at a major social media platform, an experience that “left him with symptoms of mild PTSD” that took him nearly three years to recover from. For Tim, telling stories about a speculative dark future dominated by AI has in part been therapeutic, a way of exploring and exorcising the feelings that arose in him as a consequence of seeing what humans are capable of.Our conversation was very rich in questions for me, about how we see and inhabit the world, and how machines and algorithms have insinuated themselves between us and what we might call reality.“Our society embraces progress, not the sentiments of the past.”The above quote comes from one of Tim’s books, The Banned Prompt. Was the line written by him, or AI? Is it more concerning as an idea, or less apt as a description, if a large language model generated it?As we discuss in this episode, I found reading his work very interesting, and I would love to know what you all think. To that end, Tim has very kindly offered 50 free copies of two of his books, The Banned Prompt and Anxietopia, to the first listeners to click through. You can use the buttons below to get your free copy now (if you’re early enough), and Tim also shared a couple of the AI-generated images from the books to give some added flavour.Tim publishes through Lost Books and sells his books directly here. He doesn’t maintain a social media presence, for reasons made clear in our conversation; he prefers to spend his time gardening and building furniture.We, on the other hand, have accounts on X and Instagram, in case you want to come visit.Please let me know what you think of the episode, I’d love to hear from you. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit 1984today.substack.com
Jan 21, 2024
1 hr 36 min
Episode 104: Elle Griffin on Faith, Hope, and Clarity
Can Substack survive mainstream media pearl-clutching? Do we dare to dream of utopia? Was the Virgin Mary really a virgin?These are just some of the questions I get into with the fascinating and contagiously positive Elle Griffin in this wide-ranging conversation.Elle is the author of The Elysian, an exploration of utopian ideas through fiction and non-fiction that goes out to over 11,000 subscribers on Substack. In December 2023, her open letter defending Substack’s content moderation policy, co-signed by a large number of Substack authors, went viral. The catalyst? An article in The Atlantic by Jonathan M. Katz called “Substack Has A Nazi Problem”. Katz’s main beef is that Nazis and extremists have Substack newsletters that in some cases have paid subscribers, and therefore, he claims, Substack is helping Nazis to make money, and is taking a cut in the process. No prizes for guessing what he thinks would solve the “Nazi Problem”.Would censorship and de-platforming be better than the hands-off, walled garden approach that Substack has chosen? The following response from Substack’s Hamish McKenzie was not enough to assuage and re-cage the outrage:I just want to make it clear that we don't like Nazis either — we wish no-one held those views. But some people do hold those and other extreme views. Given that, we don't think that censorship (including through demonetizing publications) makes the problem go away — in fact, it makes it worse.To paraphrase Louis XV: Après ça, le déluge.On one side of this argument stand arrayed the usual suspects from the commentariat and the haunted casket of the New York Times.On the other side, the signatories to Elle’s letter such as Matt Taibbi of Racket News, Michael Shellenberger of Public, Glenn Loury, and many more.Elle and I do our bit to tease out the subtleties of the situation while maintaining our sense of humour. I hope you enjoy it.Feel free to explore the links above and leave a comment letting me know whose argument you find most compelling. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit 1984today.substack.com
Jan 7, 2024
1 hr 46 min
Episode 103: CJ Hopkins on Thought Crime
Charged! Convicted! Sentenced! Then tried?In this episode, I speak with CJ Hopkins, an award-winning playwright, novelist, and political satirist who lives in Berlin.CJ’s plays have been produced and have toured at theatres and festivals in London, New York, Edinburgh, Sydney, Toronto, Los Angeles, Atlanta, the Netherlands, and his political satire and commentary have been published by Consent Factory, OffGuardian, ZeroHedge, ColdType, Rubikon, RT.com, CounterPunch, Dissident Voice, and many other publications. His dystopian science fiction novel, Zone 23, is also out now.CJ is in the process of being tried in German court because of retweets he sent on X/Twitter which included an image of his book cover (see below):The book is a compilation of his essays commenting on what he saw as a fascistic tendency in German politics related to the pandemic, and swastikas are legal for use in "art or science, research or teaching" in Germany, so the image itself was not the basis of his alleged crime.Whether you agree with his conclusions, or with his interpretation, what seems fairly clear is that he was implying that the similarity he saw with fascist policies, denoted by the swastika on his book cover, was a bad thing. It is therefore bizarre that the charge against him is “disseminating propaganda, the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization,” punishable by “imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.”CJ has spent a 30-year career writing with great passion, fluency, and intensity about his opposition to war, fascism, totalitarianism and so forth, with humour and humanity. Whether or not you agree with his perspective, his experience of being charged in this way, and of the process he is being subjected to by the German court, is worrying, and worth hearing.You can find CJ on X and Substack, and his personal website is www.cjhopkins.com.Since it’s Christmas, you might not receive the transcript for this episode for another few days, as I’ve been drafted into an industrial-scale kitchen operation for the feeding of the multitudes. ‘Tis the season for forgiveness, so I plead mercy.If you received this as a forward, please consider subscribing to receive our weekly dystopian round-up The Weekly Weird, episode transcripts, and more!If you’re not totally tapped out by the holiday season, and you want to support us with that thing called money that people are always talking about, all blessings are gratefully received.Thank you for reading and listening. I hope that 2023 was kind to you, and that 2024 will be even better.Stay sane out there, my friends. Merry Christmas! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit 1984today.substack.com
Dec 24, 2023
1 hr 29 min
Episode 102 - Ken Silva and the Fed Files
Entrapment! Terrorism! Nazis! It’s time for our second episode!Our guest is Ken Silva, an investigative journalist focused on data privacy and, more recently, the FBI’s role in right-wing extremism.Ken and I discuss his work on the Fed Files, his investigative series at Headline USA based on documents he got access to through a source who…well, listen to our conversation, he explains it better than I can.We get into the details of his in-depth research on the role of FBI informants within the neo-Nazi movement in the United States, some history on how the Feds’ tactical grab-bag was developed and used from the 1970s through to the 1990s, and how 9/11 and the Patriot Act really kicked ‘anti-terrorism’ into a higher gear. Extra talkies include Oklahoma City, the concept of ‘inert material’, the ‘Nazi chud’ who fell in with the North Koreans, and more! Be sure to check the transcript for links to some of the things Ken mentions - I’ve linked some key subjects to relevant background reading, sources, and documents.You can find Ken on X (formerly Twitter) here.Subscribers receive transcripts of every episode, as well as emails and updates. If you received this email as a forward, please subscribe (it’s free), and share.If you’re in a position to support us with money, we’d be very grateful and (subject to your preferences) give you a shout-out for your generosity. Please consider a donation.Thanks as always for listening. I can’t wait to hear what you think! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit 1984today.substack.com
Dec 10, 2023
1 hr 19 min
1984 Today! Episode #101 - Dorian Lynskey
Thank you all for being the very first subscribers to our shared podcast journey.Speaking of sharing…This episode features the author, journalist, and podcaster Dorian Lynskey. His excellent book The Ministry of Truth: A Biography of George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four is worth reading and is available from all reputable booksellers (and disreputable ones as well, I’m sure).He and I talk about his research into Orwell, the motives the great man himself had for writing the genre-defining novel, the broader threads that stitch the book into our society’s idea of itself, and more besides.It was a good chat, and Dorian is a lovely man with a deep knowledge of the subject. I hope you enjoy it.Also, as subscribers, you’ll get a transcript of each episode as well. I’m still figuring out the best way to do it, so forgive me if typos or other errors snuck in. It will follow in a separate email because it’s quite long, probably due to my overly verbose and redundant loquacity. Or is it garrulousness? I’m not erudite enough to cognise such terminology.If you received this email as a forward and haven’t subscribed to the Substack yet, please do!Thank you again for subscribing during this crucial launch phase. Please tell your friends, your enemies, your families, your doctor, your dog’s therapist, whomever you can rope into our nascent community. Here’s that button again…Please don’t forget to reach out and let me know what you think. I’d love to hear from you.With gratitude,Mike This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit 1984today.substack.com
Nov 26, 2023
1 hr 20 min