On this episode, Hasan asked Josh when he realised that his life was about more than just his personal survival, and this led them into an expansive chat about the importance of living purpose and why it’s as important now in this current climate than ever before.

They then dissect whether rules are worth anything in society and why it’s important for us all to keep challenging oppressive structures.

As always, Hasan and Josh end on reasons to be cheerful, which in this episode, involves Josh’s inflexible joints!