Christmas is here again and although big business and politicians convince us to spend big, we can make Christmas the meaningful holiday it truly is. Live simple with less stuff and lets not raise another generation of consumers.

This time around we remember the joys of a rotating shift and how we adapted to 16 years of it.

In this episode we talk about our experience with having our first child many years ago. The lessons learned beginning our adventure into becoming parents of 10 Kids.

There are 2 people named Ben and Katherine who have 10 children. We are those two people. This is a podcast where we share about our life, how much we like donuts and sleeping in and basically anything else we decide to talk about. We probably won't talk about trying on shirts....unless something funny happens.   We want to show you that having 10 kids is far more of a big deal to other people than us. In this episode we talk about who we are and how this whole shebang started. We both like to joke around a lot and we have been happily married for 17 years and hopefully next year we will still be married.