Cody Sheehy is an award winning documentary film maker who lives on a sailboat in Mexico. He broke the story about China genetically engineering and DNA editing babies, and is about to launch his next film about a Vietnam veteran who befriended a 22’ wide manta ray that would swim up to his boat, slap the side of it with its wing, and then swim with him. They did this together for 19 years. Excellent stories and a wide ranging conversation that was interesting in every moment.