Susan and Barbara sit down for a cosy chat about everything from becoming a crone, living with the cycle of nature, ghosts, cats, ghost cats, apports, ancestors, and Arthur Miller's The Crucible.

Episode 155: The Universe Next Door with Deb Jordan Kauble.

High Strangeness surrounds the world, cropping up here and there, imbuing ordinary reality with weirdness and dunking normal people into strangeness and wonder. Follow us as we explore a reality that is stranger than any fiction.