Writer Kurt Andersen joins Lisa Birnbach to talk about his important new book "Evil Geniuses: The Unmaking of America: A Recent History" and how we got to where we are. Then of course - The 5 Things that make their lives better. Part 1 of 2 (listen next week to episode 112)

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