Harlem Chef JJ Johnson joins Lisa Birnbach in a far ranging conversation about being a Black Chef in America in 2020. Join their conversation about the joys of cooking, the beauty of rice (yes RICE!) and what it means to be a black Chef in the year of the Pandemic, his restaurant - FieldTrip, and his cookbook Between Harlem and Heaven.

Lisa’s 5 Things: 1. A great talk with Exhibit C, 2. Paying bills on time with checks, 3. No manicure in the time of Corona Virus, 4. No one is unreachable, 5. Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Chef JJ Johnson’s 5 Things:  1. Family, 2. Real friends, 3. Good partners, 4. Focus, 5. Being true to yourself

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