The New York Times editor of the "Modern Love" column, Daniel Jones, joins Lisa Birnbach to talk about Love and Dating (not necessarily in that order) ! And of course they couldn't leave out the 5 things that make their lives better.

Lisa’s 5 Things: 1. Lunch with Friends, 2. Cindy Otis’s Twitter Thread, 3. Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman, 4. Listener feedback, 5. Resistors

Daniel Jones’s 5 Things: 1. Google Earth app, 2. Ben & Jerrys Pumpkin Cheesecake Ice Cream, 3. Fort Tryon Park, 4. Open office plans, 5. Metro North New Haven line

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