Demi is joined by professional boxer Patricio Manuel for a conversation about trans visibility, traditional masculinity in the sports world, and Pat’s odyssey of gender. This episode contains content surrounding substance abuse, which may be triggering for some. If you or someone you know is in need of help, you can visit www.samhsa.gov for resources. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: <a href="https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy">https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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4D with Demi Lovato is a weekly podcast series in which global superstar, actress and activist Demi Lovato shares and explores what’s on their heart and in the corners of their mind - curiosities, experiences, movements, and voices that raise the collective frequency of their community of listeners. Each week, Demi hosts conversations with special guests about identity, creativity, activism, philanthropy, and beyond. 4D with Demi Lovato is a presentation of OBB Sound, SB Projects and Cadence13.