Our host's best friend, Jason Kowalski, joins the show to talk Wisconsin drinking culture, the pain of watching a loved one sink into addiction, and toxic masculinity.

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This episode was presented by DUI & Behavioral Health Counseling Centers, which has offices here in northern Illinois – in Sycamore, Plano, and Crystal Lake. If you suspect you or someone you love has a problem with drinking, drugs, mental illness or anger, call 815-895-9000 today and set up an evaluation. Visit duisycamore.com for more information.

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