Bill Landis is joined by The Athletic's Sr. Writer Nick Baumgardner to go inside the Ohio State vs. Michigan rivalry on & off the field. Why can't Michigan keep up with the Buckeyes on the recruiting trail? Is this Jim Harbaugh's make or break season in Ann Arbor? Plus, a look at how two former Buckeyes are performing for the Detroit Lions.

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