A long time ago, before 4-Thirty in the Morning was even an idea, Ben and Pat were still (attempting to) make podcasts. On this very special 'bonus' episode of 4-Thirty, the guys decide to share a throwback recording they created all the way back in 2019. Back before they knew about things such as editing, sound-proofing, microphones, or interfaces, Benny the Kid and Patty Ice were just two dudes with a laptop, big ideas, and a few too many beers. On this mess of a recording, you'll here the guys dive into the mysterious life of Bob Lazar, one of the men on the forefront of Alien Conspiracy Theories in the United States. If you can make it past the rough audio quality, you're in for a wild ride!