In this episode we discuss Maddy's past as a teen witch (and the victim of an email psychic scheme), teenage witches on Tik Tok, Travis Birkenstock, staring at gel pens for hours because of Matilda, our stance as a pro-Sopranos podcast, the perfection of casting Fairuza Balk as a witch, the lack of roofing businesses in LA, wasting spells, playing Ouija boards and light as a feather, condo rates in the 90s, snake/scorpion/worm/rat ACTRA union reps and MUCH MUCH MORE!