Deb shares an extraordinary conversation with Reverend Stephen Handy, lead pastor at Nashville's McKendree United Methodist Church, who walks her through the danger of doing this work and finding comfort. According to Handy, "Comfort is seductive." He cautions Deb it's more than a conversation, more than good intent that will build bridges to change. Deb admits to feeling indicted, but enlightened as Reverend Handy offers ways to become true deconstructors of systemic racism or in his words, abolitionists.