Folks- if you've ever wondered about the OG of OG wargames, Kriegspiel, this is the episode for you! While not our only topic, professional wargaming guru Jan Heinemann (letsplayhistory on Instagram) and I discuss professional wargaming, Jan's entry points into wargaming, and the importance of game based learning in the modern world. Jan was a great conversationalist, and I truly hope we end up in the same room at some point- doing what we love- integrating education and games as one! Please enjoy the episode, and click on the link below to find out more about Jan, his work, and interests as a gamer.

https://about.me/jheinemann

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