– Intro 1:06 Piper and Gail's road-trip together 2:16 - "Know where your towel is."  -Douglas Adams 2:26 - What to have with you on a road trip; especially when traveling with someone like Piper who has a delicate tummy (towels, wetones, and plastic baggies) 2:57 - How to prep for a road trip (bubbles, ginger chews, and child's Dramamine) 3:47 - The beautiful in appearance and smelling California coast (horsehair, licorice, and redwoods) - especially near Samuel P. Taylor State Park 4:59 - Main Topic -> The Backpack Sasquatch 5:13 - Gail's "ism" - and why she loathes backpack travelers (she gets "beaned by backpacks") 6:18 - Piper is a backpack aficionado - and so the feud begins 7:27 - Brand loyalty to -> Tumi backpacks 9:16 - Backpack security; beware the pickpockets in tourist spots and crowded transit places 10:18 - Gail admits to being a recovering backpack user 10:55 - Backpack optimization -> keeping valuables hidden deep within (past the snacks and the emergency wipes) 12:57 - Gadgets!     13:14 -> the backpack Gail actually likes (its collapsible!)     14:44 -> Piper's preferred ballistic nylon Tumi backpack 16:15 - The Jackie and Laurie Podcast  16:37 - Gail's exacting standards for baggage selection (color of interior vs interior -> the inside should be light colored, thereby making it easier to your stuffs) 17:26 – Outro and thanks to:             John Anealio for his song Steampunk Girl   Safe travels and thanks for listening! Please subscribe and look for new episodes every Monday.