Mike McGinnis joins us this episode to talk about how after 48 years in his field, he's seen a lot. From his first interest in treatment programs with his families addiction, to seeing former clients and students, he estimates he's helped somewhere near the 5-figure number of people over the course of his career. Mike shares laughs with 2Dudes and Tyson talks about how he came to be one of Mr. McGinnis's past success stories.

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