In this week's episode M&amp;C Saatchi boss Justin Graham chats about the role of creativity in business, his goal of competing on the reality TV show Survivor and why running towards a fire will lead to better outcomes.
This podcast is sponsored by <a href="https://www.ldvautomotive.com.au/vehicles/ldv-edeliver-7/">LDV Group.</a>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

How James Thornton became Intrepid Travel CEO with 'no experience or qualifications'

15 Minutes with the Boss is a podcast that gives listeners exclusive access to some of the top CEOs in the country.
Each week AFR BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with a prominent leader and asks them to share the invaluable advice and wisdom they have accumulated throughout their careers.
For stories of success and failure and everything in-between, search and follow 15 Minutes with the Boss. It’s 15 minutes you can’t afford to miss. 