DescriptionKyle and Mark discuss an incredible variety of topics around political and governance institutions in Aotearoa with Deb Te Kawa including performance targets, engagement with the public and how neoliberalism has impacted public management.Remember to get involved with the Triple the Vote campaign!And we’re in the last few days of our PledgeMe!This episode’s co-hosts:Kyle, Mark, DebTimestampsIntro/Outro by The Prophet MotiveSupport us here: https://www.patreon.com/1of200