Mr. Mike Kinsella is on the damn podcast today. The man behind bands like <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/5FwydyGVcsQllnM4xM6jw4?si=-skE2xF1QsCgh0uoaT3IPw&amp;dl_branch=1" target="_blank">American Football</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/4PJbP0dXALttfo1PFPY1Pt?si=VgDk_XOdSSKqp3ad7msm6A&amp;dl_branch=1" target="_blank">Owen</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/3JhEcBWSCPXkRMt1VK14i4?si=_hcuaX0bTg-W7wpZzaJFOQ&amp;dl_branch=1" target="_blank">Cap' N' Jazz</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/57sqenSxpn1IL2G0im58dj?si=xTmFmgsTRk6fPUK9Mdd-dw&amp;dl_branch=1" target="_blank">Owls</a> agreed to let me punish him for an hour and I was happy to oblige. We discuss the unexpected rise of American Football, being resilient and of course, midwest emo. In all honesty, I was thrilled to have this conversation because his music has been highly influential in my life. Learn more about your ad-choices at <a href="https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com" target="_blank">https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com</a>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener" target="_blank">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

Dale Crover from The Melvins

Host Ray Harkins dives deep with creators of independent culture from musicians, artists and other interesting people to find out what inspires them, how they came to be and many other unexpected places.