Some people I have on my “want list” for quite some time that they become a white whale for me and fall into another category of “that’d be nice if it would happen one day”. Today, one of those guests came to fruition and I am so glad to bring it to you. George Hirsch from Harm Wülf/Blacklisted spoke to me for about an hour on everything from conflict on tour to motivation and being vulnerable. I didn’t honestly expect George to be so forthcoming with his answers but he was an incredible guest and I can’t thank him enough for it. Consider being a Bone Marrow donor, like me. Join the registry today.Get 3 free meals on me! Try out the amazing meal delivery service, Sun Basket. Organic and good for you!Use our Amazon Affiliate Code to support the show!

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