This is the hardest thing I have ever recorded or said publicly. It is not flattering for me as a leader, a Christian, a dad or a husband. I pray it is a big help to others whether you are planting a church, considering planting a church or just trying to keep what is important the main thing. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/matt-hafer/messageSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/matt-hafer/support