Joel and Rebecca talk with musician Derek Evry about all manor of vegan business, stoner recipes, the various levels of Joel's beard aspirations, pop-cultural 180s, viewing all websites through the lens of Geocities, books of the bible that are solely about smiting, the fact that music still happens in DC, controlling a famous person for a day, how best to destroy the seven wonders of the ancient world and who's the best at the internet. 

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