10 Minutes of Gemera with Rabbi Avigdor: Miller Meseches Beitzah
10 Minutes of Gemera with Rabbi Avigdor: Miller Meseches Beitzah
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067-Beitzah Daf 14 A (14 lines Up)
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According to the Mishnah salt needs a shinui. According to Shmuel [and a Beraisa] it may be pounded without a shinui.

Rav Acha Bardela to his son: When you pound salt, incline it [to create a minor shinui].

Rav Sheishes heard the sound of pounding [in the street on Yom Tov], he said: This sound is not coming from my house.

Question: Perhaps they inclined when they pounded?

Response: The sound was clear.

Question: Perhaps they were pounding spices?

Response: Only salt makes a clear sound when pounded.

Beraisa 1: Tissni [when grain is pounded finely until each kernel is split in four] cannot be made and grain cannot be pounded in a pounder.

Challenge: Those are two separate [contradictory] statements?

Resolution: It means: What’s the reason you cannot make Tissni? Because a pounder may not be used [to pound it to a lesser degree, a pounder is not necessary].

Challenge: If so, the Beraisa could have simply said “a pounder should not be used on Yom Tov”?

Resolution: Such wording would imply that a professional grade pounder may not be used but a small one would be permissible, this is why the Beraisa must make both statements.

Challenge: “Beraisa 2: A large [professional] pounder may not be used, but a small one is permissible.”?

Abayye: Beraisa 1 is also only discussing a professional pounder. [The Beraisa is saying that Tissni cannot be made, and even a coarser grain cannot be made with a professional pounder].Rava: [rejects Abayye’s explanation and explains Beraisa 1 as follows: You cannot make Tissni, nor can you use a pounder (even a small one), because it is used to make Tissni]. Beraisa 2 was said in Bavel [where no slaves were kept and the people were conscientious in the laws of Yom Tov, therefore a small pounder was permitted] Beraisa 1 was said in Eretz Yisroel [where slaves were common and the laws had to be stricter]. 

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