10 Minutes of Gemera with Rabbi Avigdor: Miller Meseches Beitzah
10 Minutes of Gemera with Rabbi Avigdor: Miller Meseches Beitzah
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We learned: A chick that hatches on Yom Tov, Rav: It is forbidden. Shmuel or perhaps Rabbi Yochanan: It is permissible.

Rav forbids it, because it is muktzeh.

Shmuel or perhaps Rabbi Yochanan permits it: Since it has changed categories and can now become permitted by shechitah, its muktzeh status is broken.

Rav Kahana and Rav Asi to Rav: Why is a chick different from a calf born on Yom Tov?

Rav: The calf’s mother is permitted, and the calf itself may be eaten if the mother is shechted before it is born [but not an egg].

Rav Kahana and Rav Asi to Rav: Why is this chick different from a calf born to a treifah [whose mother is muktzeh] on Yom Tov?

Rav did not respond.

Rabbah or perhaps Rav Yosef: Why didn’t Rav respond? He could have said that a treifah is also muchan [ - the opposite of muktzeh] for dogs.Abayye to Rabbah or perhaps Rav Yosef: Something muchan for humans is not muchan for dogs [and it takes more to make something muchan for humans] - as we learn in a Mishna (003) “the carcass of an animal may be cut up for dogs on Shabbos. Rabbi Yehuda: If it died on Shabbos, it is forbidden because it’s not muchan” - so why would you assume that something muchan for dogs becomes muchan for humans? 

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