Get ready for a masterclass in songwriting, artist development, record label management and a whole bunch of great "behind the music" stories! On this episode I sit down with a couple of guys who were there at the beginning of 4HIM and played a major role in our success. Dave Clark and Don Koch are responsible for dozens of #1 songs in Christian music and I can't wait for you to hear our candid and emotional conversation.Support the showandychrisman.com